Thanks for bringing this forward. Techno-industrial "solutions" are nearly all first-order thinking, which sooner or later makes situations worse rather than better. What aboriginal/indigenous people knew - and still know, but far far too few of us are listening - is how to be part of life, rather than thinking we're somehow separate and special (Descartes and everyone who backed him have a lot to answer for). As Gregory Bateson said, our problems come from the differences between how we think, and how the world works. Permaculture teacher and communitarian Brock Dolman of Occidental Arts & Ecology Center talks about how our "ego-systems" are a primary cause of damage we do to eco-systems. And putting "complex" in front of "problems" does not take us out of problem-solution thinking, or get us into living holistically and systemically. The real story here is shifts in our thinking.